Blackcloud Vs. Extrema and duck hunt pics

[omega58]

Just got back in town from our trip down south. Weather was great a couple days for duck hunting, but not for camera shots. Here are a couple from when the weather wasn't too bad.

First couple are from a BB that came in low.

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/541/medium/kysplash1_e.jpg

Splashdown
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/541/medium/kysplash2_e.jpg

A cemetary from the late 1880s-90s that was right behind us

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/541/medium/kycem_e.jpg

A crip being shot and catching the shot string

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/541/medium/kybbshot1_e.jpg

And this happened the first day, about 5 minutes after my buddy said, "this blackcloud is great stuff" Good thing I took an extra gun for him to use. Thankfully, nobody was hurt except for a little ringing in the ear for the guy next to him. And no, he was not using a wad stripping choke.

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[Indy dog]

YIKES!!! How the heck did it happen?

Glad to hear the hunt was a good one and even more glad to hear no one was hurt from the exploding gun.

[bad primer]

WOW !!!
looks like the barrel was plugged with something the way it`s peeled open :eek:

[Clint]

A buddy of mine has a barrel that blew out while deer hunting a few years back. His previous shot (prior to the barrell blowing apart) was muffled sounding, like their wasn't enough powder in the shell, and the slug never got out of the barrel. Next shot... BOOM! No one was injured, but his ears rang for a while (he says he lost some hearing permanently in one ear from it). Thanks for the pics, Randy.

[res]

So glad no one was hurt. My buddy and kid have used blackcloud for two years and have had not problems like that. I agree with the plugged barrel. Ouch. Rick

[omega58]

So glad no one was hurt. My buddy and kid have used blackcloud for two years and have had not problems like that. I agree with the plugged barrel. Ouch. Rick

First problem he had too. . .and his last with Black Cloud. ;)

Definitely had to be a plugged barrel. . .you can see how Black Cloud wad would get stuck more easily than a regular wad if you look on the website at their "flite control" wad.

[gspdad]

Wow. thats kinda scary. Hunting next to an old cemetary and exploding barrels. Glad no one got hurt.

[Lucky Dog]

Wow, was there a choke tube in that barrel? Which one?

[omega58]

Wow, was there a choke tube in that barrel? Which one?

Beretta factory IC. . .not sure how it happened, loose choke? or just Black Cloud getting stuck like was happening with wad stripping chokes?

[Lucky Dog]

Beretta factory IC. . .not sure how it happened, loose choke? or just Black Cloud getting stuck like was happening with wad stripping chokes?


Might be worth a trip to a trusted gunsmith to get his opinion. Just for the sake of maybe knowing.

Glad no one was hurt.

This is what is left of my brothers LC smith,

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/Lucky_Dog_01/DadsGunAccident010.jpg

He almost lost his thumb when that happened, and knowing how far in the bush he was and being alone, he easily could have lost is life.

3 surgeries later he has a thumb, but is still in need of 1 or 2 more trips to the surgeon, and will probably never hitch hike again.

[Richard Hale]

Glad no one was hurt. I have seen one other case where the barrel did that, it was a Remington 870 barrel that got a plastic build up in it from the filler they use in buckshot loads, the end of the barrel blew back like a banana peel. Pay close attention to the report and recoil of the shot, I know, it's easy to say when you have a flight of ducks coming in.

[WeimsRus]

A friend sent me some picts. of someone who failed to remove their bore sighting tool before test fireing. The barrel was, as Richard said, pealed back like a bananna all the way back to the chamber. :eek: This was just due to someone not PAYING ATTENTION. Gun safety is something that was drilled into me by quite a few adults, when growing up, starting with my Grandfather who was in WWII. Inspection of a firearm before use is second nature now and this starts with making sure the barrel is clear and it is unloaded. I am intrested to know if these shotgun mishaps are due to repeted fireing use when this happened or if people are useing them on more than one hunt before cleaning/inspection.

[omega58]

A friend sent me some picts. of someone who failed to remove their bore sighting tool before test fireing. The barrel was, as Richard said, pealed back like a bananna all the way back to the chamber. :eek: This was just due to someone not PAYING ATTENTION. Gun safety is something that was drilled into me by quite a few adults, when growing up, starting with my Grandfather who was in WWII. Inspection of a firearm before use is second nature now and this starts with making sure the barrel is clear and it is unloaded. I am intrested to know if these shotgun mishaps are due to repeted fireing use when this happened or if people are useing them on more than one hunt before cleaning/inspection.

I think it was on his either second volley or third. . .and he said he cleaned his gun before the trip.

[omega58]

My buddy emailed, called, and faxed Federal about what happened. After a email that included my original thread, he got a call in about 30 minutes.

They want the barrel sent along with the original box the shells came in. . .I'll post what Federal does.

[omega58]

My buddy got a call back from Federal saying that they are willing to pay 1/2 the cost of the barrel, but they get to keep the barrel. They said they couldn't say why for sure it did it, maybe a loose choke? Not sure why they would want to keep the barrel?

He thanked the gentleman and told him he would like to talk to someone else, so he gave him the name and number to his boss.

He has a call in, I'll keep everyone informed of how the next call goes. So far, he has been pleased with how Federal has handled this situation. . and we're all still glad the situation didn't result in injury.

[Clint]

The friend that I referred to in an earlier post on this thread used Federal slugs also and was offered the same deal. He told Federal no - he'd rather keep the barrel as a conversation piece. I don't know what happened after that. I'll see if I can get a pic of his barrel and post it; it's like nothing I've ever seen before.

[omega58]

The friend that I referred to in an earlier post on this thread used Federal slugs also and was offered the same deal. He told Federal no - he'd rather keep the barrel as a conversation piece. I don't know what happened after that. I'll see if I can get a pic of his barrel and post it; it's like nothing I've ever seen before.


Well Clint, he didn't have to talk to one of the guys in charge today for long. Federal is PAYING FOR FULL REPLACEMENT OF THE BARREL. He said both guys were very professional.

[Clint]

Glad to hear he worked it out with Federal.